Hare Krishna Prabhujis and Matajis,
Please accept our humble obeisances. All glories to Srila Prabhupada and Srila Gurudeva.
This is in conclusion of the transcription of the class given by our beloved spiritual master HH Mahavishnu Goswami Maharaj on Srimad Bhagavatam 2.8.4 in Rajkot on 05 December 2008. In the previous offering, we heard from Maharaj as to how spiritual master, being spiritual father is easily accessible to those who take shelter of him. Now we shall hear further.
Maharaj: In Srimad Bhagavatam 6.4.29 Daksha while offering prayers to Supreme Lord says,
yad yan niruktaṁ vacasā nirūpitaṁ
dhiyākṣabhir vā manasota yasya
mā bhūt svarūpaṁ guṇa-rūpaṁ hi tat tat
sa vai guṇāpāya-visarga-lakṣaṇaḥ
Anything expressed by material vibrations, anything ascertained by material intelligence and anything experienced by the material senses or concocted within the material mind is but an effect of the modes of material nature and therefore has nothing to do with the real nature of the Supreme Personality of Godhead. The Supreme Lord is beyond the creation of this material world, for He is the source of the material qualities and creation. As the cause of all causes, He exists before the creation and after the creation. I wish to offer my respectful obeisances unto Him.
Guṇāpāya - He is not material modes, material things are not there. He is completely pure. Material thing doesn't touch Him. But now for our facility, we have to see with the material eyes. So material eyes can only see the material. These eyes cannot see the transcendental. So for our facility, He has incarnated in the material form. Otherwise He doesn't have the material form. And really frankly speaking, as soon as deities are made, they stop being material. Otherwise plenty of marble stones are there. Why people don't go there? Why people come here? If it is a marble, people don't come to see the marble. So there is something else there. Otherwise, one man can be mad, but these all people, they are mad? So there must be something there. We have to put trust, faith in the shastras. This higher knowledge cannot be proved by our material senses. The senses are incomplete. So our proofs are always incomplete. We cannot apply any material apparatus to the transcendence. So whatever in front of us, we accept. That's how. Our material forms they don't touch there. And if the form is material, tell me why they come here to see the stone? But Prabhupada says that those who think that deities are stones, deities are not stones, they are stones. (laughter).
Man, why should they go to Mecca, if they don’t believe in form? Why should they go to Mecca? Everywhere there is form, they want to have the darshan of the stone? They are all Muslims, they visit Mecca. Not only that, they are so very expert worshippers of the stone. That they face Mecca while praying, anywhere in the world. This side they face to the west, that side they face to the east. Please, they think that there is no form. You have to have some form. Some form. So better to have some Shastra, and approved forms. That's how. And it is beyond proof. We cannot prove it. But automatically it proves. Man, so many people come, we don't have to introduce Him, that this is Mr. Krishna.(laughter). Anyway, he wants to join the hands. Fall flat. Who forces them if it is a stone? They don't have to do for any stone and fall flat. Why here? There is something more.
Krishna willing we shall hear more nectar from Maharaj in the subsequent offering.
Thank you very much.
Yours in service of Srila Prabhupada and Srila Gurudeva,
Divya Rupa devi dasi
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