Namo Om Vishnupadaya Krsna Prystaya Bhutale / Srimate Mahavishnu Goswami iti namine
Namo Om Vishnupadaya Krsna Prystaya Bhutale / Srimate Bhakti Vedanta Swami iti namine
Namaste Sararswati Deve Gaura Vani Pracharine / Nirvishesha shunya vadi Pashyataya desha tarine
The following is the second part of the seventh day of Bhagavat Saptaha given by His Divine Holiness Srila Mahavishnu Goswami Maharaj recorded on 5th of October 2001 inSydney, Australia
Hare Krsna Hare Krsna Krsna Krsna Krsna Hare Hare / Hare Rama Hare Rama Rama Rama Hare Hare
…All infrastructure at our disposal. We are not alone. The young people should not get lost. Only finding out the job is not the goal of our human existence. No doubt it is required. But soon it will be there, because you are young. So somewhere little less or more, you are going to be fixed. But this thing will not come to you. You please take advantage from our vast spiritual infrastructure. And we have thousands of tapes, CDs, Prabhupada lectures, very easy. Please come to this. You prepare yourself and you start to give the lectures. That is the potency of Prabhupada. They read one small book about him and they start speaking about Krsna. And that is how we are attracted to Prabhupada. There may be so many mosquitoes far flying around. But those are mosquitoes. They don’t have any infrastructure. They just have to propogate something nonsense. And that nonsense is destroying the society. Save yourself from this misdirection. This is impious life, misdirected life completely. And you have to create a revolution against this.
And that is the appearance of Krsna. Otherwise we may discuss appearance of Krsna, “Oh ho ho very good, very good, very good.” Go home, sleep and forget about the whole thing. In the morning we don’t know, “Ah, yesterday we had appearance of Krsna. Forget about it. Next time we’ll see now.” No, not that. Don’t forget about it. “I don’t care about that” No, No, No. That is not the way. Be serious about. Please, we are very lucky to be the heir apparent of this greatest culture. And we have so much our disposal, take help from this.
And then we go Brahma for our knowledge. Who is the authority you know. Great, great, great, grandfather. So whatever he tells we must agree. He says that Ishvara Paramah Krsnah. Very easy to understand. Ishvarah means controller. Paramah means transcendental. He comes up between within us, but he is not controlled by the laws of material nature. Laws of the material nature means, we have seven laws that we all living entities are controlled. The first is that we have to take birth that is the material law. He does not have to take birth like this. We have to take birth by the material force, delivery wind. And wind pushes us and we are born may be dead or alive, I don’t know. So that is the material law. And those who are born again the material law is there that they have to die, nobody can escape. This is eternal knowledge, sanatana. So whatever the Vedic culture gives, is not meant for one living entity, it is all living kingdom. Including birds, beast and everybody, they have to take birth, they have to die. They have to become sick, they have to become old. These are the material laws.
And apart from these four laws, again we other three very important thing and they are known as three miseries. The first misery is arising out of our body. The second thing, other living entity inflicts miseries on us. And the third one is natural disasters. Again these are the material laws. We try to do so many things, and Krsna just smashes us through the material laws.
daiva hathartha rachana rishovobhi devo
ahani aprhata arha karana nishihi nishiyana
ahani aprhata arha karana day and night we are working very hard. nishihi nishiyana and at night we want to sleep. We try to sleep. But nana manoratha dhiya ashana bhagna nidrahah. nana manoratha inthis six inches place there are so many desires squeezed. We saw somebody having car, that manoratha come in, we saw three shops, that come, we saw somebody flying away to America, that we see here. So, nanamanoratha dhiya, in our intelligence there are nanamanoratha. So many things are there here in six by six inches. I think more than a million things are lying here. Except Krishna everything is here. “We don’t want Krishna, forget about it” then he also you go to Him, He says, “Forget about it” He also forgets, this is the end result. nanamanoratha dhiya shana bhaga nidraha, and again we cannot sleep. Then our sleep is broken again and again. And. Daiva hathartha rachana rishovobhi deva. Even rishis if they have nanamanoratha then daiva hathartha rachana I’ll smash their plans. That’s how inIndia we have 40, 5 year plans. 40, 40 times we had five year plans. And even now we are dragging back. And again, “Now, now, this year you have to be bit austere, next year we will be happy” Next year comes. “Just this year, acute misery is there economically, but next year will be alright.” And that next year never comes. Because we don’t have shastric knowledge. Everything is in our lap, but we don’t have intelligence to look at it. daiva hathartha rachana rishovobhi deva. And gives the reason then why I do this.
rishyat prasanga vimukhah ihasahsaranti.
rishyat prasanga vimukhah You are completely averse to my topics. And that’s why ihasahsaranti you are getting rotten into this atmosphere. Again and again you accept the body, and the body gets rotten, again you accept body, again body gets rotten, ihasahsaranti. In this bad life, in this worst existence, again and again, again and again we have to come. This is a lack of appearance of Krishna. And that’s why Brahma must be given respect, in our mind, in our house and everywhere. And hear him, Ishvarah Paramah Krishna, and his Vigrahah, is Sat-Cit-Ananda Vigrahah, completely spiritual. There is no material tinge in Him. And unless we are vishudhha, completely purified, without the contamination of material tinges we will not be able to approach him. Cow can be cow’s friend. Dog can be a dog’s friend. Cat can be cat’s friend. The dog cannot be cow’s friend. Or the hog cannot be elephant’s friend because they are different species. Krishna’s existence is completely spiritual and our body is material. We are very tiny spiritual spark. Unless you develop the spiritual attitude towards Krishna, you will not have any relationship with Krishna. And artificially you cannot create, by just “Gopi,Gopi, Gopi, Gopi” I put on saree and move about in Vrindavana “Gopi, Gopi, Gopi, Gopi”. Are Bhai, this is gross ignorance. “Maharaj has come, he is giving Gopi, Gopi, Gopi, Gopi” Maharaj is also Gopi, you are also Gopi, you are also Gopi. Man, this is completely misguidance. And the society is completely disasterous.
Already we are misguided in kaliyuga, and in spiritual knowledge also you have to be very careful. You have to choose. That is what Prabhupada has taught us that you only take the basic realities and try to improve your own existence. And as soon your existence is improved then it is very easy to relate to Krishna because your all material inebrities are nearly gone. abhadreshu. What is it, … abhadreshu…that sloka …nasta prayeshu, prayeshu means almost, nasta means destroyed. Almost prayeshu adbhadreshu, these are all abhadra. Bhadra means good. abhadra, inauspicious. You please run after the auspicious. Bhagavad-gita is auspicious. Bhagavatam is auspicious.
And never in Bhagavatam, Sukhadeva Goswami, did not mention Radha’s name at all. Could he not? And somebody comes… “Radha, Radha, Radha, Radha, Radha” and then without qualification it becomes a sahajiya. It becomes a show, a hypocricy.
There was one solicitor you know. So he was not having much business. So he had a office and some phone was there and everything was there. So, one man was coming to him you know. He saw. So he wanted to impress him. So picked the phone as if somebody has rang. That man stepped in the door and he picked up the phone.
“Hello, Hello, Mr. Vajpayee.” (aside) “these fellows are after me”, he said, in order to impress him you know.
Then he talked all nonsense to Vajpayee, that “O, O, O, Mr Bush everything is safe with me”.
As if American President is talking to him. Poor fellow sitting in a slum area in Bombay and Bush is ringing him [laughs]. And then, after 15 minutes he turns up to that man and said: “See, their cases are lying here all the files are ready.” And there were no files at all.
Eventually, “What can I do for you?”
He said: “I am a telephone technician. I have come to connect your line”
[Audience Laughs along with Maharaj]
This is the result of hypocrisy.
Please this way you cannot have appreance of Krishna. By understanding you can have appearance of Krishna. Otherwise it is all hypocrisy. You cannot be Gopi, you cannot be Radha. You don’t understandRadha. You don’t understand Gopi, Gawvihih Bhakti Rassam Pibati Iti Gopihi, that is the definition. Gawvihih means senses. With all the senses those who drink Bhakti Rassam the juice nectar the juice ofbhakti that is Gopi. You can be Gopi in suits also. You can put on nice suit, and drink bhakti ras, and you are Gopi. Radha comes from araadhanaa. So you please have intensive araadhanaa. Pray nice intensely. Getup at 4 O clock in the morning. That we don’t want to do. I want to sleep upto 7 O Clock or 8 O Clock or 9 O Clock whatever it is and then I want to be bhakta. How can you be bhakta? There is a process to do this, and process has got to be followed. And you don’t follow the process then you may die and bang your head against the wall, and break your head, even then you not be Gopi. That is the point to be thought over. And then come to Brahma, he explains. That Krishna’s vigraha is completely spiritual. And Anadi Adi Govinda. Anadi no beginning, he has no beginning, but he is the beginning of all. How simple definition is there? And Govinda, sarva karana karanam. Is the cause of all causes.Whom are we going to catch. This is simple definition. Advaita Achuta Anandi Ananta Rupam PuranPurusham nav yavanam ca And then
Vedeshu dulabham adulabham atma bhaktau / Govindam adi purusham tamaham bhajami
So many qualities are given. Advaitam He only one without the second. That is advaita. There is no second. Mohammadans also worship the same God. Christians also pray to the same God. Hindus also pray to the same God. God is not Mohamadam, God is not Muslim. God is not Jew. God is God. Krishna is Krishna. Supreme Absolute Truth is Krishna. He is not Allah or Raam or Krishna or whatever, thousands of names are there. Any names you have trust, please, certified names, you go on chanting. And this is the understanding of Krishna. And with this understanding, we go to the certain position, wherein the appearance was definite. And during the day of Brahma. The day of brahma is very long. Thousand yuga cycles make one day of Brahma. And these hundred millenniums make a day of Brahma. And in 28 milleniums, at the end of Dwapar yuga, always Krishna appears. This is the calculation. And our calculations are immaculate as I described you about Purushottam maas. This calculation is completely immaculate. And in order to make good again after 141 years, we have two purushottam maas in that year, so that the calculation fits in. So calculation is without doubt. And this is how Krishnaappears. But then there is some decay again because so many military forces are there. People are killing each other. There is completely disorder, on the planet, and that is how he is ….
Ajopi sanyat mahi se Ajopi sanya atma Butami ajopi san
Prakritim svam adhistaya sam bhavami atma mayaya
That he says himself in Bhagavad-gita. Ajopi, even though I am unborn, sat, I am eternal. Avyaya, inexhaustible, decay, I am never less or more. I am same all the time. Avyaya atma butanam ishvaropi san.I am controller of everybody, but even then, Prakritim svam adhistaya, I control my internal potency. And Sambhavami, I manifest. He is not saying that I am born. There is a difference between birth and the manifestation. Manifest means it was there and it is now in front of us. That is manifest. So He says sam bhavami atma mayaya, by my own internal potency, in my own original form I always appear. And that’s why he was only few hours old and Putana came, and with all the horrible poison sprinked around her breast, she wanted to feed Krishna, and she could take a beautiful women’s body. So nobody stopped her, because gopis were always coming to feed Krishna or to play with him. So nobody stopped. And eventually she tried to feed and Krishna knew everything. So with the milk, he sucked the whole of her life also. She had to take her own form, which was 12 miles long. Such a great demon, within few days of his birth, He could kill. Krishna is always Krishna. He always comes in his original body. He is never two days old; he is never 125 years old. He is always there, eternal. Like a sun. Sun’s example is given. At the moment the sun is not seen here, because of our imperfect senses. We are completely imperfect senses. Beyond the wall we can’t see anything. Beyond this planet earth, we cannot see anything. We see the mass of water, Pacific Ocean, but behind the Pacific Ocean, the sun is there. Sun doesn’t set. But we have gone away from the sun. There is Krishna. He never goes anywhere, never comes anywhere. He is always there, that is the understanding of the appearance of Krishna. And as soon as you come to these qualities, then it is very easy to understand how he appears, and how he disappears. This is the intricacy to understand.
janma karma ca me divyam / evam yo veti tatvatah
Those who this tatva of my appearance and disappearance, then
tvakva deham punah janma naiti
Then they don’t get another body. They come to me. It is very easy. From pages of Bhagavat Gita, from Bhagavatam.
And in the Bhagavatam very nice incidence is given. That Bhumi was completely in trouble. She went crying to Brahma. She took the form of cow. And Brahma asked her, “what’s the trouble with you.” Then she explained everything. Brahma, Shiva all the demigods, they went to Sheera saagar and Brahma, had a way to relate. Brahma can only relate to Vishnu. So he related the difficulty. For a while there was nothing so he meditated on him. And then he had in his heart, it was suggested, tene brahma hridaye adi kavaye that “I am going to incarnate soon and please all the demigods, you also incarnate in Yadudynasty, so that they help in my pastimes.” And this is how everybody was being born that time, and eventually, he was to be born in Devaki’s womb. And this was completely fixed.
Then why did He choose Devaki, that’s all worth understanding.
Long, long ago Devaki was known as Prishni. And Vasudeva was known as Sutapa. So Sutapa was the Prajapati. So they were ordered by Brahma, to carry on increasing praja, increasing population on this planet. So they immediately went to the forest and thay carried on serious penances before they started creating praja. So for years together, they had the tapasya, severe tapasyarya. So Krishna was very pleased. He appeared before them, said “You can ask any benediction”
So they asked that “We must have child like you. We must have son like you.”
So that eventually, he said alright, then he went away, then Krishna thought that “Nobody is like me, I am the only one, one without the second. So I have to incarnate, because I have already given them promise, so I must do it”
So he went to Sutapa and Prishni and said, “Sorry, I told you that I’ll give the son like me, but there is nobody like me, so I must incarnate.”
And then eventually, because he had commited mistake, so he said that three times he will incarnate. So first time, he incarnated as Prishni Garbha, in the womb of Prishni, Sutapa and Prishni. Then second time, he came to Kashyapa and Aditi as Vamana Deva. And third time, Devaki and Vasudeva, Krishna. So this we are thinking about …..
And then eventually, Devaki was married to Vasudeva and Kansa was her step-brother. So Kansa was very happy to take her in the chariot with everything and leave her in Vasudeva’s house. So they were going in the procession. So many things were given by the father of Devaki in dowry and the whole processing was going on. And we know that there was, the celestial voice came from the sky “Prati pargrahanim Kansa”.
He was just holding the reins of the horses and very happily drawing the chariot.
And he heard that “The lady who you are carrying, you fool, her eight child will kill you.”
Demons can never be trusted. Kansa was demoniac because of sanga. Himself was not bad. But because the association was bad, he was completely demon. So immediately he wanted to kill Devaki. He took out his sword, caught hold of Devaki. So, Vasudeva did not know really what to do. So he just thought, “At the moment let me save Devaki’s life if I can.” So he started to preach him so much philosophy, you know. That we are definite to die, the soul does not have any death, so on and so forth. So many ways, he described, but demon could not understand anything. In the end he promised, that “Please, you spare Devaki. She is your younger sister, and being women, you should not kill her, but I promise you that all the children born of her, I’ll present then to you.” This was a horrible promise. But he said that let me atleast save Devaki now. Who knows, she may not have children, or if she has children according to the celestial voice, he may kill him, or something will happen. Then Kansa was pacified. And somehow the matter ended there.
Then as soon as he went back, his demoniac friends he took the consultation “this thing had happened on the way”.
So they said that “now you should be very serious about it. Any of Devaki’s child will kill you.”
So Kansa started atrocity. Till first child Devaki had, Vasudeva presented the first child to him. And he didn’t do anything. He said, “I am worried about the eight child, why should I kill first one”
So he returned him back Kirtimaan, his name was Kirtimaan. Vasudeva could not trust him. He was very happy. But he could not trust him. And eventually, because of the bad association he decided,Vasudeva and Devaki must be imprisoned. He captured his own father and imprisoned him. He became the King, and he was killing all the small children. Whoever born, they were killed by demoniac fellows.
In this age also we are doing so many atrocities, of this type. And this way, somehow or the other, the atrocities increased. Eight child was born. Seven child was in the womb of Devaki and that wasBalaram, Ananta sesha, you know. So, Ananta Sesha was transferred according to Krishna’s instruction by Yoga Maya to Rohini’s womb and it was declared that she had a miscarriage. So Kansa couldn’t do anything. And then eighth pregnancy started. And that time Devaki was very effulgent. Nearly when the lady is pregnant, she becomes heavy but Devaki was not heavy at all, because spiritual supreme living being was there in her heart. First Krishna took shelter of Vasudeva and Vasudeva was also very effulgent. And then he transferred Him to the heart of Devaki and this is how Krishna was situated inDevaki.
And eventually the time came when demi-gods came because they knew that the Supreme person is in the womb of Devaki. So they came unseen to the prison and they prayed, started praying. And exactly at the time of the appearance they showered nice flowers, you know.
Mumur churr munayo devaa
All munis rishis and devas everybody assembled there.
Su manaasi mada nita
With very pleasure they were showering flowers. And
Nishet eta adbhute
It was nichet, completely dark at night.
Told them that you have already raised me two times, this is the third time I am coming. I am just showing this form, so that you may not doubt that I am not that boy. That’s why I have shown you this form.Devaki prayed and requested Him to take the baby’s form. And then he instructed them that “Immediately they should take Me to Yashoda’s house, wherein new girl is born, Yogamaya and you should transfer. Keep Me there and bring Yogamaya here” And that was, somehow or other, by Krishna’s arrangement, nobody knew about it. When the girl was brought back, then immediately everything was known. And this demon, as soon as he knew, that some child is crying, Kansa was awake all night and he was awaiting the message anytime. So he came, and he held the legs of the girl. And he completely …Devaki requested him that nice verses are there.
We are running out the time, that is why we are bit hurrying.
As soon as Krishna went to Nanda Maharaja, Nanda Maharaja was very pleased. And it was all declared by Nanda Maharaja as a son. You know we sing very nicely …Nanda ke kar ananda bhayo ho jayaKanhaya lal ki, Hathi Ghore paalki… Everybody becomes very happy by the appearance of Krishna. As we saw that, everything becomes lively, when Krishna appears. The rivers flow very nicely, trees give so many fruits, land produces all the grains, and everything. Cows are happy, beasts are happy, all the living entities are happy. And eventually then when everything was over, Kansa tried to kill that girl.
Devaki just requested him that “You have already killed by six children, Please, this is a girl, we should not kill the woman and she is not going to kill you, so please spare this girl. And if you spare, I’ll give this child, your boy, so she will be your daughter-in-law.”
But even then the demon had no sense you know. And he just tried to kill her. She slipped from his hands, again she insisted, she told him that “Your killer is already born somewhere and you should be ready now to die. So don’t worry. Don’t kill other children, don’t trouble Devaki and Vasudeva”.
And this is how… we stop here today. We will continue tomorrow. Please, tomorrow is the last day. We hope that Krishna will give you intelligence to understand Him more.
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